The comments on this
"Why is this coming, I would never use it" type comments. Same bullshit I hear spouted when that Adobe petition started. Just becust you would never use OneDrive or Photoshop does not mean other people would or even should feel the same. FOSS elitism needs to stop
@LibertyPaulM it seems absurd to me to describe a desire to keep a FOSS operating system FOSS as "elitism".
Also the idea that someone wanting to do/use something puts it beyond criticism is... interesting.
@uoou Keeping the FOSS OS FOSS is different to choosing to use non FOSS tools on top of it. I use Steam a lot and thats not FOSS but I still use it on a FOSS OS.
People should use what they want and stop being so judgemental of what other people choose to use
@LibertyPaulM In a world of absolute moral relativism then sure. But that's not our world.
People object to such things because they feel that they have real world political, social and moral ramifications. You may not agree with that - and are free to argue your case - but to wish that they not air perfectly rational concerns is questionable.
I mean *really* fucking questionable if you just extrapolate that thesis even just a little.
@uoou I just don't want to be made to feel shitty because I choose to use proprietary software that fits my needs better than any of the open source alternatives, that's all
Hyperbollically, I fancy doing some murders. Looks like fun. That cool?
If someone believes something is harmful - and that belief rests on a coherent and rational philosophy - then why shouldn't they seek to criticise and deter it?
Should climate lobbyists just shut the fuck up too?
The point - which you've still not addressed - is that certain behaviours are harmful. FOSS people believe that proprietary software is harmful, just as climate change scientists believe that burning fossil fuels is harmful and... pretty much everyone believes that doing murders is harmful.
All of those beliefs are founded in rational, coherent philosophies.
That's not a straw man. It's not even really reductio ad absurdium. It's argument by analogy.
If free software went away, we’d *only* have expensive computer products that impose restrictions on us and profiteering monopolies to choose from. That would suck, but life would continue.
If the climate goes away, we all die. If the rule of law goes away, there’s anarchy and death.
Can you accept people may have different views on different issues, and prioritise some issues higher than others?
As to your question: I'm not arguing for the restriction of anyone's behaviour - you are. People should be free to use all the proprietary software they want. And people who believe that that is harmful should be free to say so.
And, ideally, people would discuss differences and maybe learn something. Rather than telling the other side they're not allowed to comment.
In summary: there’s a difference between saying “that’s not the best solution imho, but I accept peoples’ right to choose” and “anyone who uses this is harming themselves and other people”.
Someone’s private use of OneDrive doesn’t impact you unless they try and share a document. In which case you can tell them to bog off or send it by email instead. 🤷♂️
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