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I don't undertand why people still see memory usage as a number one criteria for how heavy a program is. In my everyday use scenarios I basically never reach even half of the memory usage (8gb) of my laptop.

I would argue most important bloat criterias are how quickly programs responds and battery usage.

I love tiling wm's because of fast response but I dont get more battery life using i3 than kde. Memory usage, hard drive space and package count difference are meaningless.

@hund I totally agree. It's hard to see why arch+i3+tlp uses more battery than windows 10.

@tzycce @hund battery usage depends heavily on the cpu being able to stay idle.

Many programs don't behave well in this regard; they poll things, for example, causing the cpu to wake up.

You can use "powertop" to find out.

@tzycce I just sort of assumed higher memory use would correlate with more battery drain. Is this not the case?

@dnkl @kezzbracey @tzycce

same for ram or zram disks? With a browser session or a VM f.ex. Or is the CPU drain independent of the data is residing?

@korbendallas @kezzbracey @tzycce just having the data sit there in RAM doesn't drain the battery.

But, things like browsers and VMs usually aren't completely idle, thus draining the battery for that reason. Other than that, it doesn't really matter who/what the data belongs to.

Zram is just regular RAM, but compressed. So, *accessing* the data will cost slightly more (battery) since the CPU has to compress/decompress the data.

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