Google has suspended Element (@matrix) from the Play Store for "Sexual Content and Profanity". Basically same story as with Subway Tooter a while back. Element is to Matrix as Chrome is to the web. Curiously, Chrome is still on the Play Store.

@Gargron @matrix

I guess it's time to take FDroid more seriously.
This is war on free speech, and privacy (true E2EE). Donate to FDroid

@jcast @Gargron @matrix That isn't true. Look what happened to Gab. F-Droid pulled them for freedom of speech for reasons of hate. Just like Google and Apple.

@silibot @Gargron @matrix

Interesting point. Don't know gab so well. Well don't know US law but where I live it is illegal to incite to violence and oppression against minorities.

Do you think platforms should allow that? Mastodon certainly doesn't, nor matrix.

It is problematic though when more vague terms come into law. Such as fake news or hate speech. This can abused to create an oppressive censorship climate. The line is becoming thinner.


@jcast @Gargron @matrix I use Gab and I haven't seen evidence of inciting violence. I don't look for it either. I approve of freedom of speech except when it is coordinating violence against others. When someone says something negative towards you or others it shouldn't all be looked at as hate. They are entitled to have their opinion even though you or I think it's wrong. I am pretty sure it is illegal to incite violence in most US states.

@silibot @Gargron @matrix

So you think #fdroid was just attempting to get heat away from them by banning Gab?

Or Gab publicly refused to moderate content?

Anyway I think a distinction should be made here. Gab is a centralized platform so not truly free (although you could fork it and host it yourself).

@silibot @Gargron @matrix

It is indeed a fine line between a racial slur and a call to racial violence. So for you unless you're organizing a massacre it's ok to incite violence?

@jcast @Gargron @matrix I am against physical violence except for self defense. Context is important.

@silibot @Gargron @matrix

Based on EFF's opinion here the range of forbidden speech is much narrower under the US law (in theory at least) than most mods allow, and some other nations allow.

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