#Microsoft : "We <3 Open Source"
Also Microsoft : Open Source Browsers are slower and don't do enough about safety.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17850146/microsoft-windows-10-chrome-firefox-warning
#FUD #TwoFaced #EmbraceExtendExtinguish
Microsoft ingests open code, co-opts FOSS goodwill, and spreads FUD about massive FOSS codebases.
@xj9 I'm not under any impression that they're obliged to be nice.
I agree the web is a dumpster fire. Does that mean misinformation from massive conglomerates should go unchallenged? Or that speaking up about their backhanded tactics is futile?
I think perhaps cedeing the giants on this front and confronting their FUDtastic bullshit are not mutually exclusive, and in fact might illustrate why our attentions should be elsewhere as you've said.
I don't purport to know that the majority of internet users even understand that there's an option beyond Chrome, FF, and Edge, so criticism of Edge speaks to a majority I believe.
To put it another way: Pointing out MS's bad behaviour is not an explicit endorsement of the current web.
@xj9 @bob Yeah I can see why investing in winning the browser market is likely to waste cycles better used to embolden the FOSS strategy on the next frontier (Bob's talk of ARMv7 systems).
Is there a way we can criticise and expose these tactics in the current arena with a focus on easily identifying them as they make their way to the new platforms?
@seasharp
Not to detail the serious and important conversation about the open internet, but... This is not appearing on everyone's desktops, it's appearing in the developer preview. The bell weather, testing, developer version.
This is exactly the right time to make a stink, so upper management hears, removes it, and disciplines the right person.
@seasharp “Please, understand: other browsers can’t be so much integrated with the inner gears of Windows than Edge and IE are. So, for a better browsing experience (and since IE is obsolete, but we keep it just because Windows still relies too much on it; we were very stupid to merge Explorer.exe and Iexplore.exe in Windows 98!), Edge is the only really safe way!”
If Edge was so perfect, why did they not make it available for other OSes, like they did with Visual Studio Code?
so what? they are under no obligation to "play nice". web is a dumpster fire anyway, let them have it. we need to simplify the way we build applications. browsers are too big and complex for anyone who isn't huge to maintain.
FOSS needs to stop trying to play nice and build our own apps and networks. interop really doesn't provide a lot of value.