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I want to find the person at Redhat who had the bright idea of removing ifconfig and route from the distro so I can go put my foot up their ass!

@omnipotens
Switch to BSD, we actualy maintained our ifconfig and route utilities :P

@architect Can't not my choice when you are developing software you have to use that the customers want to use.

@omnipotens
In that case, keep plenty of bourbon or similarly useful utilities around

@Wolf480pl I been typing the same command for 25 years that is what is wrong. Why change up what everyone knows and uses. You can easily create a new package and keep the same command format rather than completely blow away what has worked for years and make old farts like me have to google just to add a route lol

@omnipotens A friend of mine just checked on CentOS 7, and it is a separate package. net-tools package contains the old tools (ifconfig, route) and iproute package contains the new ones (ip).
Should be the same on redhat, and supposedly net-tools should be installed by default.

@Wolf480pl It is it just not installed by default install and now I have to get the network up to install it which means I have to google how to add a default route because some knuckle head thought it be funny to remove it from the default install haha

@Wolf480pl lol thanks I know I have already done it. LOL my point was Redhat cant leave will enough alone lol

@omnipotens
eh, but sooner or later you'll need to learn the new tool anyway, unless someone is willing to maintain the old tool forever.

Unfortunately I can't relate cause, when I started using linux, iproute2 was already a thing, so I never really knew how to use ifconfig & co.

But IMO iproute2 has a very logical syntax, and once you learn a few of its commands, the rest will become intuitive.

@Wolf480pl 20 years you will see you will get muscle memory on how to configure something and they will pull the rug out from you lol

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