**Mr. Matt** @matt · 2018-06-20T23:04:25Z

Mr. Matt @matt

Mr. Matt @matt

Hmm...going to run #XFCE for a bit. The question is, #Xubuntu, #Debian, or other?

Jun 20, 2018, 23:04 · Tusky · 0 · 0

**Hund** @hund · Jun 20, 2018, 23:05

**Hund** @hund · Jun 20, 2018, 23:05

@matt Xubuntu is a very polished distro. :)

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 20, 2018, 23:07

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 20, 2018, 23:07

@hund aye and it looks sharp out of the box too. Debian is straight up fugly

**Hund** @hund · Jun 20, 2018, 23:16

**Hund** @hund · Jun 20, 2018, 23:16

@matt Debian looks good in my book. It's a bit more mature and perhaps more pleasing to the older neckbeards. :)

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 20, 2018, 23:18

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 20, 2018, 23:18

@hund truth be told my heart is more on Debian than Xubuntu. Though I need to do a fresh backup of my system before I make the plunge :)

**wheeler** @wheeler · Jun 20, 2018, 23:24

**wheeler** @wheeler · Jun 20, 2018, 23:24

@matt as a fellow neckbeard, I agree with @hund and appreciate the maturity and vanilla-ness of Debian. There's a reason many major distros use it as a base

**Pingüino Azulado** @pinguino_azulado · Jun 21, 2018, 00:08

**Pingüino Azulado** @pinguino_azulado · Jun 21, 2018, 00:08

@wheeler @matt @hund As my avi shows, gotta put it my vote for Debian. Along with the net installer, you get a simple, no bloat system that you can make perfectly yours. Not to mention you get the full support of the Debian community as well as the moral agenda of the Debian Social Contract :debian:

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 21, 2018, 00:32

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 21, 2018, 00:32

@pinguino_azulado @wheeler @hund Back to Debian it is!

**xaver artix** @artixx · Jun 20, 2018, 23:10

**xaver artix** @artixx · Jun 20, 2018, 23:10

@matt Devuan!

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 20, 2018, 23:15

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 20, 2018, 23:15

@artixx nah, I don't mind systemd.

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 20, 2018, 23:16

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 20, 2018, 23:16

@artixx I'm also not terribly invested in the systemd vs not-systemd other than I'm used to systemd and I'm too lazy to learn something different

**xaver artix** @artixx · Jun 20, 2018, 23:21

**xaver artix** @artixx · Jun 20, 2018, 23:21

@matt There was just a review on distrowatch using Devuan and XFCE, this is how it came to my mind. But it's good to read that someone is actually used to systemd, because mostly it's the other way, people try to keep their old non-systemd habits....

**Hund** @hund · Jun 20, 2018, 23:30

**Hund** @hund · Jun 20, 2018, 23:30

@artixx Devuan and Artix are two projects I'm following. :) I'm not sure what they wrote about it, but apparently a lot of devs left Debian after they weirdly enough switched to Systemd and they created Devuan.

**Sully** @sullybiker@sully.site · Jun 20, 2018, 23:51

**Sully** @sullybiker@sully.site · Jun 20, 2018, 23:51

@matt @artixx In my experience systemd works very well, as long as you don't hit a *related* problem that the black box makes very tricky to solve. Examples are socket activation doing weird things (had zeroconf drive me NUTS once) and NFS mounts not behaving as documented on one box.

Generally speaking it's pretty good though.

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 21, 2018, 04:55

**Mr. Matt** @matt · Jun 21, 2018, 04:55

#Debian Stretch is now reinstalled with #XFCE. Will have to spend some time ricing it up, as default XFCE on Debian is fugly. But that will have to wait another day.

**малин** @malin · Jun 21, 2018, 06:47

**малин** @malin · Jun 21, 2018, 06:47

@matt All Linux desktops are super ugly by default. It's a conspiracy by devs to make people interact with .config settings.