I've spent some time ironing out some porting bugs, but so far it looks really good!
There's still a lot of work to do, plus probably refactoring some stuff, but it's finally coming together!
@scops could be wrong but I think that you can make themes that support libadwaita.
I'm not opposed to theming , but I can pretty much assure you that at some point themes just break UIs, because more often than not devs rely on the default stylesheet for readability as well as custom styles.
This is a difficult conversation to have, and while I'd love to have themes that would magically just work, I can see how it's not really possible for gtk at this point in time.
@gabmus yes, they could break the UI. but thats the freedom for the user. if a user "want" to break a UI... why shouldn't "you" (libadwaita) force him not to do so? yes, it's a difficult conversation and i'm on the "pro theme" side ;) maybe you could support libhandy too? i use this theme on my devices; https://github.com/daniruiz/skeuos-gtk (at the moment,... besides Pho-Earth and others depending on mood)
> you could support libhandy too?
nay, doesn't work with gtk4
> thats the freedom for the user
I understand, and I agree with you, but this is a technical limitation, not an imposition
@gabmus Thats (gtk4 / libhandy) are really bad news (for me) :( i hope there will be a working port of libhandy in the future. :(
@scops libadwaita IS the working port. The theming problem related to libadwaita is something to do with the direction gtk as a whole is taking. libadwaita is developed by the same people that develop gtk, as a natural extension to it, not as a third party add-on.
@brainblasted @gabmus *args... i think i will quit using gnome in the future - or stuck at gnome 40.x till i can't use it anymore (system upgrade needed or something like that)... the time i started using linux theming was one of the "core end user features" ... :'( thats really a shame the direction goes...
@brainblasted @gabmus lol? what about the theme selection in gnome 2? https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19754-01/806-6873/6jfpm4g5k/index.html LOL
@ebassi @brainblasted @gabmus no no, i don't want gtk2 back. i just say on the theming side it was "easy" with a good result to theme the ui :)
besides; if someone installs a theme from a untrusty source... it's the own fault. it's like that you shouldn't drive a car if you dont have a driving license... you can but you must bear the blame.
@scops @brainblasted @gabmus Things are so clear cut. Distributions add their own themes; applications add their own themes; and users expect everything to work, and will not accept the blame—especially if it seems that themes are actually supported. Then people will come screaming into the GTK issue tracker, and then *I* have to deal with them.
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