@mlemweb hi! Sorry for messaging you out of nowhere. I was listening to LibreLounge and looked the hosts up on the fediverse and on birdsite, which suggested me your profile. I'm an academic in the field of music history and musicology and a free software enthusiast, so I got interested in the "digital humanities" and even more the "free software in academia" mentioned in your profile, as I've been trying to bridge these interests of mine. Do you have any resources to point me to, please?


A lot of the digital humanities work that really engages with free software is done by librarians or IT people rather than the principal investigators.

I was on a panel at last year's Libre Planet on Free Software in Academia that you might find interesting: I led a panel at LP2018 you may be interested in: media.libreplanet.org/u/librep

@mlemweb with regards to the panel, I got greatly interested in taking part in whichever discussion group, mailing list or any other form of being in contact with people who are working in this field. By the way, I think DebConf this year will be here in Brazil. Is there anything planned related to these fields we’re talking about?


I've met several individuals at various conferences, but I haven't found a central location yet. I think what we need is more Free Software dialogue at Digital Humanities conferences.

I've never attended DebConf (I use Debian, but I'm not a Debian Developer), so I'm not sure what's planned. I attended LibrePlanet in 2017 and asked around for people working in FS & DH, and the response I frequently got was, 'why don't you do a talk on it', and I did, maybe you could do the same?

@mlemweb don’t you think we could try to create some form of “online gathering point” (I’m sure there’s a better word for this in English, but it’s not coming to me now) for people who are interested in this? I don’t know, a discourse forum, a website, a podcast... I’m really interested in working towards improving this. Most people simply don’t realize the implications...

@fredmbarros I think this would be a great idea. I'd be interested, but I don't know that I have the time right now to set it up myself. I do however know someone with a free software podcast ... @cwebber ?

@mlemweb @fredmbarros I think bridging free software / culture and digital humanities / academia is a great topic for a future @librelounge. What do you think @emacsen ?

@cwebber @mlemweb @fredmbarros @librelounge I think it's worth discussing. We're also discussing other issues around academia that people brought up.

I'd like to hear more specifics about what we'd discuss. Email me and let's talk more.

@aminb and @eylul, welcome!

(People, please tell me if I left someone out, as it’s kind of hard to keep everybody in the loop)

@emacsen @librelounge @_emacsomancer @cwebber @mlemweb

I don’t know whom among you followed the earlier conversation about a platform for the creation of collaborative text.

And there’s @wolftune joining in too
@aminb @eylul @emacsen @librelounge @_emacsomancer @cwebber @mlemweb @teinturs

As most academics won’t be willing to learn version control, I started thinking: what if there was a text editor embedded in a website that acted like a fronted for Git?

@wolftune @aminb @eylul @emacsen @librelounge @_emacsomancer @cwebber @mlemweb @teinturs

@fredmbarros @wolftune @aminb @eylul @emacsen @librelounge @cwebber @mlemweb @teinturs I'm not that keen on working/forcing people to work in a browser though, but it makes a sort of sense. Has anyone tried GitHub's Desktop (desktop.github.com/)? I wonder if the right sort of GUI could at least ease pain for some people.

@_emacsomancer @fredmbarros @wolftune @eylul @emacsen @librelounge @cwebber @mlemweb @teinturs

Among online LaTeX editors, I've heard Overleaf has git integration as well, but I wouldn't recommend it for two reasons: first it's proprietary, and second you're screwed if (when) their servers go down and that's your main tool (happened to a student in our group last term, an hour or so before a paper submission deadline).

I've been thinking about recommending Magit lately. It's hands down *the* best interface I've ever used for git. I've been thinking of putting together a fairly simple .emacs file that would automatically install latest version of Magit, and customize a few things to provide a more beginner-friendly Emacs experience for the novice user that may not necessarily be willing to learn to do things "the Emacs way" if all per want to use it for (at least in the beginning) is Magit.


@aminb @emacsen @librelounge @_emacsomancer @eylul @fredmbarros @teinturs @cwebber @wolftune

It took me until last year to learn any markup language partially because my husband is such a die hard emacs user and every time he tried to show me emacs it was super intimidating.


@mlemweb @aminb @emacsen @librelounge @eylul @fredmbarros @teinturs @cwebber @wolftune I agree that Emacs is very intimidating in general, and most of the Emacs starter-packs seem to be aimed towards people used to some IDE or other and for the purpose of writing code rather than some other sort of text content. But I think all of the right pieces are there in Emacs; it's more of question of designing a starter-pack for more general academic purposes and making it more approachable.

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