We do need to get away from the belief that all data collection is inherently bad because it is not. It is possible to collect metrics for software improvement while still respecting the user’s privacy

To survive, FOSS has to steal my data like the adults

@LibertyPaulM I couldn't disagree more. There's always the possibility of opt-in ("send now" for crash reports for example). Most other things could be improved 90% of the way with qualitative instead of quantitative feedback. Do a classic usability test or panel. Don't do opt-out data collection.

@LibertyPaulM what you, what open source projects or what closed source projects intend to do with the data is also just one side of the medal. Once data is there, it's often used for different purposes later. Think of hackers or law enforcement. Don't collect data that's not directly related Me vital to the service/function in question.

@LibertyPaulM I don't know how the "Me" ended up in there. It should have been an "OR".

@LibertyPaulM We will survive. Thanks for the advice though Pete.

I disagree. in my opinion data gathering is the prologue to making a decision or answering questions. all that data exist in a scope. when too much data is gathered the scope gets too wide and the target of the whole exercise shifts. so no answer, poor decision, pollution of other scopes, ww3 and

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